How Do You Feel About Wind Turbines?

Wind turbines are in the news lately for causing the deaths of protected species such as golden and bald eagles, as well as hundreds of thousands of flying bats. While green energy proponents sing their praises, others lament the federal support, obtrusiveness, noise, etc., of the giant wind turbines. This week’s online poll is: “How do you feel about wind turbines?” Be sure to leave your comments after voting.

Discuss this poll 30

Anonymous
on Dec 28, 2013

In Wyoming they run 26% of the time.
They are subsidized by the Feds.
WY tax base is jeperdized by wind farms
Roads to wind farms need upgraded at County expense
Propellers have to burried in land fills-they are not biodegratable---therefore taking a lot of space.
***sage grouse shade up under towers---preditors stay away
Access across Federal lands cost taxpayers Millions do EA's and EIS's
Now the EPA wants to shut down Coal fired power plants and make them switch to natural gas---then they would run at 50 to 60% capacity and when the cost of gas went up so would your power------possibly 3X's in the next 7 to 10 years.
***If only people knew the whole story......

Anonymous
on Dec 28, 2013

We do need to look into alterative power, oil and coal will not last forever.

Anonymous
on Dec 28, 2013

not sufficent enough to cover cost of windmill

Anonymous
on Dec 27, 2013

Why would anyone collecting a fat check be looking for dead birds?

Anonymous
on Dec 27, 2013

where is the beef from Brazil poll?

on Dec 27, 2013

We apologize for not putting an updated link to the Brazil poll in the newsletter. Here it is:
http://beefmagazine.com/poll/12262013

Anonymous
on Dec 25, 2013

I think wind turbines should be required at the end of every cul-de-sac where there already is no wildlife left. Solar panels should be on the top of every urban building. Most of the infrastructure and powerlines are already there.

Anonymous
on Dec 25, 2013

They are the Good, Bad and Ugly. I'll skip the good for the benefit of gold fever and the ugly which is only in the eyes of the holder I've learned to tolerate 23 along the escarpment which by the way had the the largest diversity of raptors from the smallest- American Kestrel, fastest- Prairie Falcon, largest Golden Eagle and Great Horn Owl with those in between- Red Tails, Swainson's and during the winter Rough-legged. Landowner are and can be held responsible for any takings (deaths by blunt force trauma) under the Eagle Golden Eagle Act, Migratory Bird Act and the Endanger Species Act for you as landowner receive revenue from the installation. The contract or lease should have a clause indemnifying the landowner. Duke Energy in Wyo is only the beginning of the developers being held responsible for taking of Golden Eagles under the Migratory Act with both a million dollar fine and requirement to develop a conservation plans for two developments and procuring taking permits.

To those who claim of never seeing dead birds. I understand you've never seen them. Their there hidden by the canape of crop or tall grass. The shelf life of a bird is an average of a day an half before being consumed by insects or predators.

Song birds are on a decline. Only a matter of time someone will start the crusade to have various species place on the Endangered List and we the property owners will be held responsible, especially if cattle are involved for we are the curse of the earth for many organizations who believe in cattle free by ninety three.

As I learned long ago - watch your six for there's a Hun in the sum ready to pounce on the inexperienced, ranchers/sage grouse.- wolf - any endangered species on your property.

Anonymous
on Dec 25, 2013

Wind power is fine. I believe that it is another revenue source for farmers and ranchers across the country. I don't think it should be subsidized. We were lucky enough to be involved with a power line that came from the huge turbine farm in West Texas. They paid out the nose for the right of way thru us.

Anonymous
on Dec 25, 2013

One cannot construct anything without impacting the environment. Therefore all construction requires a cost/ benefit analysis to see if the benefit is equal to the financial and environmental cost. Wind energy is inefficient and I have talked to utility executives that say if it wasn't for the subsidies and good PR then they would not build them. If either of those two benefits were removed, they would not build them. Wind, like solar, is a question of reliability and source power density. Neither have good values compared to hydro, coal, and especially nuclear. Some people are making out while the rest of us pay.

Anonymous
on Dec 25, 2013

We have four turbines and looks like we are going to get more in 2014. I have mixed emotions about them as I am not sure if they are the best way to generate electricity. I will say though that I do like it when I hit a light switch and the lights come on. It seems like we are against pipelines, hydro power, nuclear power, coal power and who knows what else. I guess if someone wants to build these things and they want to put them on our ranch, one thing I know for sure is it is going to make paying our taxes and bills a little easier.

Anonymous
on Dec 25, 2013

You do realize that it is my tax dollars that are subsidizing wind turbines. In effect the government is taking money from me and giving it to you.

Anonymous
on Dec 27, 2013

Couldn't have said it better...the promotors and the ranchers who have them are both making out like bandits while the rest of us pay through the nose.

Anonymous
on Dec 27, 2013

So, is that worse than buying oil from those overseas that use the money to buy weapons and kill our kids?

on Dec 27, 2013

it's not an either/or proposition, dude. We have enough energy in the ground in this country to be totally self-sufficient in energy for a hundred years. We don't need the Middle East. But all that natural gas and oil that we have in the U.S. doesn't fit the "green" picture for Obama and his campaign cronies. So instead we throw tax dollars at these technologies that can't stand on their own. Let the market decide the winners and losers.

Anonymous
on Dec 25, 2013

Sadly this is another one of those big deals several years back we heard so much about which was to create good paying green manufacturing-construction jobs in America, reduce electrical cost, cut the continued strangle hold of foreign oil, but as always they're being built/imported from overseas and constructed by mostly low wage illegal labor so another government boondoggle by the powers to be in Washington,DC who spout enough hot air every time their mouths open to power the country, that is if we could operate on political BS!

Anonymous
on Dec 25, 2013

Like the power on even on calm days

Anonymous
on Dec 22, 2013

We have 6 turbines on our farm for 6 years no problems no dead birds and the check that comes once a year sure helps.

Anonymous
on Dec 21, 2013

wind can be an economical resource if properly placed the so called subsidies are in the form of tax accelerated depreciation which there would be no taxes if none were built look up the minn.flip system and sd wind partners systems to under stand why tax breaks work

Anonymous
on Dec 21, 2013

I do not like the subsidy that has made wind energy profitable. Mandating wind and solar will increase our cost of electricity and make us less competitive. Europe has already went down this road and their electric cost is 3 times ours, consequently BASF (German company) is planning putting chemical plant in the US because of energy cost. Oil, gas, coal, nuclear, hydro should be our main focus (or all of the above) and not be mandating 20% wind and solar. Laws on endangered species should be administered equally. So one industry stopped because of bird loss then wind farms being stopped if there are birds being killed and breaking the law. Otherwise it becomes a slippery slope of enforcement determined not on a law voted for by our representatives, but a bureaucrat's whim on enforcement.

Anonymous
on Dec 21, 2013

wind can be the cheapest source if placed in the proper places not just placed for political benefits yhry are shut down when endangered birds are in the area as for subsidies big oil gets more federal dollars wind gets tax write offs through advanced depreciation

Anonymous
on Dec 20, 2013

We have renewable energy with water power that is clean and economical and the environmentalists want to tear down dams.

We have unreliable "green energy" in wind turbines that is subsidized and is killing endangered species and this "clean power" is praised by evironmentalists.

Strange logic!

Anonymous
on Dec 20, 2013

Without the government subsidies for construction, windturbines do NOT make money and never will unless the price of electricity quadruples or technology decreases the cost. Basically the taxpayers are paying for a loosing proposition.

Anonymous
on Dec 25, 2013

I agree, there is no way these wind generators are efficient and a less costly way to generate electricity. What is going to happen when these wind turbines get some age on them? Is the government going to subsidize the repairs? There is an old saying: If it has tits or wheels, your going to have problems!

Anonymous
on Dec 20, 2013

I think urban and suburban America should turn off some lights and start conserving some of our resources. Ruaral night lights might also come under consideration.

Anonymous
on Dec 20, 2013

A blight on the landscape. Let them compete on their own without any subsidies and we'll soon be rid of them.

Anonymous
on Dec 20, 2013

They are a net drain on the economy.

Anonymous
on Dec 20, 2013

I think we would be much more energy efficient and independent if we did more to increase our oil, coal, and natural gas industries. Don't give the EPA so much power over our energy industries.

Anonymous
on Dec 20, 2013

All industries should start on their own merit. There is no "Easy Button"!

Anonymous
on Dec 20, 2013

We have 4 turbines on our land and have never seen a dead bird in four years!

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