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Horse Slaughter, Horse Welfare A Victim of Legal Maneuvering

A surprise ruling by a New Mexico judge means horse slaughter can resume in the U.S. But animal rights activists will continue to inflict harm on horses with their legal meddling.

In a move that surprised just about everyone who has been following the long and sad controversy over horse slaughter, U.S. District Judge Christine Armijo in Albuquerque Nov. 1 dismissed a lawsuit by the Humane Society of the U.S (HSUS) and other animal terrorist groups designed to uphold the nation’s inability to humanely and effectively deal with an overpopulation of horses and other equines.

The HSUS lawsuit alleged that that USDA failed to conduct proper environmental studies when it issued permits to Valley Meat Co. in Roswell, NM and Responsible Transportation in Sigourney, IA to resume horse slaughter.

The reason the ruling to throw out the suit came as a surprise is because the same judge earlier this year issued a temporary restraining order that effectively kept the plants dark, even though they could have resumed operations.

The surprise, however, didn't last long. Not surprisingly, HSUS and the state of New Mexico immediately filed an appeal in the 10thU.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Denver. Three days after Judge Armijo threw HSUS out of court, the Appeals panel in Denver welcomed them back with open arms. The appeals court instituted an emergency injunction requested by HSUS, effectively shutting everything down again.

And that’s unfortunate, because America’s horses deserve better than the inhumane treatment they’ve received at the hands of HSUS.

While horse slaughter in the U.S. has been at a standstill for many years, horse slaughter in Mexico and Canada continues. So HSUS and its minions haven’t stopped horse slaughter, and they most certainly haven’t helped horses.

Without a way of humanely dealing with unwanted horses, abuse was sure to happen. And it has. When horse slaughter in the U.S. was shut down, the horse market fell apart, particularly for just plain ‘ol horses. And predictably, without any salvage value and expensive upkeep, horse abuse cases shot up. The stories of abuse, of unwanted horses hauled out to the country and abandoned, were numerous and heartbreaking.

The horse is a noble creature and it deserves our respect. Unlike those who oppose horse slaughter, however, I think we show respect for horses not by allowing them to starve to death, but by having the infrastructure in place to humanely end their lives under the supervision of USDA inspectors and veterinarians.

Whether or not horse slaughter in the U.S. resumes in the next week still remains to be seen, as there are other issues at play. The regulatory issues largely revolve around wastewater permits for the two plants. But for the plant owners and their employees, the regulatory hassles may be the lesser of their problems.

According to the Associated Press, Rick de los Santos, owner of Valley Meats in Roswell, is hiring security as he prepares to bring his plant back into operation. Over the past two years, he and his wife have received numerous death threats, AP reports, and last summer, there was a suspicious fire at the plant.

It’s truly unfortunate that the de los Santos have to fear for their lives, but it shows just how out of control the debate, and some of those who oppose horse slaughter, have become.

It’s time for those who oppose horse slaughter to come to their senses, lay down their swords (literally and figuratively) and do what’s best for the horses they claim to love. In the end, if they won’t, it’s the lawyers who get fat and the horses that will continue to suffer the most.

 

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Discuss this Blog Entry 78

Anonymous (not verified)
on Nov 5, 2013

It's a long and sad controversy, for sure, and the suffering of horses is beyond comprehension.

But the export of horses to slaughter in Canada and Mexico isn't HSUS's fault, and it's not the fault of the 80-90% of Americans who want Congress to pass a law ending horse slaughter.

The blame lies squarely on cattle industry, Farm Bureau etc who lobby to block the popular legislation that would end shipping US horses abroad to slaughter.

Here's what I can't understand. Branding beef with horse slaughter seems counter-intuitive. As a member of the business community, I see the tanking frozen beef sales in Europe caused by EU's horse meat contamination conspiracy, and wonder why intelligent American business people want to go down that same road.

Contamination of the US food supply is the likely outcome if domestic plants were to open. Further, US risks being thought of as no better than China's food exports, as long as we keep selling horse meat with a hundred or more drugs banned from food animals. That risks legitimate food exporters, too.

Science wins this one for the American people. American horses get too many drugs, they are too toxic for the food supply. The only way they are going now, is by owners and dealers filing false drug paperwork, which can come back to haunt them.

There is no data to back up increased abuse and neglect; in fact the data we have shows abuse and horse thieving goes down when horse slaughter stops.

Reports and photos by onsite USDA inspectors, and investigative reporting showed extreme, unapologetic brutality in US regulated horse slaughter plants, which is why Congress pulled the funding in the first place. You can't stun a horse effectively, they regain consciousness, that goes to anatomy and behavioral science.

The American taxpayers have no stomach for paying for that any more.

The solution is simple - breed less horses, breed good quality horses to satisfy the market, and encourage responsible horsemanship which includes calling the vet at the end of a horse's life. In fact, owners of 99% of US horses manage to do the right thing, - they call a vet - and they don't ask for government handouts to do so.

Anonymous (not verified)
on Nov 5, 2013

Thank you for stating the facts, pure and simple.

AgainstHorseSlaughter (not verified)
on Nov 5, 2013

Anonymous, I would like to use your first reply to post in places where people need to hear the truth, other than from me... if you are agreeable, I would be proud to pass on your well written statement of what the truth really is .

AgainstHorseSlaughter (not verified)
on Nov 5, 2013

I am not "anonymous,"I made the above comment to "Anonymous" - thank you for the plain and simple truth. I forgot to fill in my screen name , sorry. Anonymous hits it squarely on the head. Pro slaughter does not want the truth interfering with their propaganda, too many dollars at stake.

Anonymous (not verified)
on Nov 5, 2013

Right on, you nailed it. What a preachy, sanctimonious fact free argument.

Jeff Beck (not verified)
on Nov 5, 2013

It's good to see that there are still people out there that really understand why they should put a stop to this barbaric slaughter of horses. Thank you for your opinion!

Anonymous (not verified)
on Nov 6, 2013

Well said!

Debra Schroer (not verified)
on Nov 6, 2013

Another statement that resonates with reason. Can you not see the truth in this? What part do you not understand? Clearly, if your morals are this skewed, I can certainly see why people are now eating less meat. Serves you right, You want to promote horse meat, and go against your own business interest? What is wrong with this picture. But here is what I suspect, you are worried about this issue impeding on your "personal property" right? These animals are not "property" they are sentient and understand death, separation from loved ones, pain, jealousy, hunger, pain. If you cannot comprehend those simple, basic truths, then I suggest that you start looking at the science behind what I just said. Get educated and come out of the "Dark Ages" as we do not live there anymore.

Christy Lee (not verified)
on Nov 6, 2013

Thank you for this very well written, factual statement! It is truly sad that there are individuals that want to slaughter animals that are not raised for food, and then ship the tainted product to unsuspecting countries. The horrific cruelty involved in slaughtering these animals aside, it is flat out unconscionable to do it for the sake of anyone who might eat it. Oh, and "terrorist"....REALLY?.... What am I going to do....throw my blood pressure medicine at you?

Nikki (not verified)
on Nov 6, 2013

Thank you Anonymous for telling the truth here! Very well said!!! The person who wrote this article needs to watch the footage of our American run slaughter houses and then say it's humane. Animal terrorists???? Really???? The true animal terrorists are those who can do such cruel and barbaric things at our "HUMANE" American slaughterhouses!!!!

concerned (not verified)
on Nov 7, 2013

You are correct that one good solution is to breed less horses. The only problem with that is the US Government is the outfit that is breeding and feeding too many horses without a plan or reasonable market to fix this problem. Maybe if the Gov got out of the horse business altogether we would not be having this discussion.

on Nov 8, 2013

The government is NOT breeding horses, concerned. Where did you get that? Other than that, I agree with you completely about breeding for the market rather than sending thousands of perfectly healthy horses to slaughter.

Anonymous (not verified)
on Nov 10, 2013

Ah, what about the blm mustangs? Aren't they gov horses?

Anonymous (not verified)
on Nov 13, 2013

Actually, the BLM is rounding up OUR wild horses from OUR public lands and putting them in government holding facilities using OUR tax dollars for both the roundups and the penning.
Wild horses would not be a problem if they restored the protections of the 1971 Wild Free-Roaming Horses and Burros Act. Those horses are healthy and do not need roundups to "help them from starving" as falsely reported. The horses rounded up by the BLM often wind up being sold to kill buyers who sell and transport them to Mexico and Canada. This would be stopped by repealing the Burns Amendment. We once had 20,000,000 wild horses roaming on the lands allotted to them in 10 Western states . Now there are less than 30,000 roaming free, while there are over 50,000 in unsheltered pens. This is all done to benefit the cattlemen who graze their horses on OUR public lands paid for by…you guessed it… OUR tax dollars! This costs us hundreds of millions of dollars annually…all to benefit the cattlemen, and of course the newest threat to our public lands, oil and gas “fracking” companies whose practice uses toxic chemicals (known carcinogens) that is pumped into the ground (along with thousands of gallons of water) and eventually will contaminate the water supply. This whole issue is about $$$ and our wild horses and those who love them are the losers here.

elizabeth dana (not verified)
on Nov 7, 2013

Europe loss Billions of tons of beef meat thrown out because of a Black Market selling horse meat as beef! Learn from that an demand horse slaughtered be outlawed once and for all or the cattle ranchers and beef processors will end up risking profits on Horse DNA kits to test for that New Mexican Beef!

Anonymous (not verified)
on Apr 15, 2014

Agree!!

Anonymous (not verified)
on Nov 5, 2013

So you are calling me a terrorist? Because I was one of the first people who called in organizations to help. We lived close to the plant. I am a professional horse trainer and a Christian. I have 5 generations of Agricultural based family and 5 generations of horse trainers within it. We have had 5 World Champion Stallions, 27 Champions in several breeds and Disciplines, and Multiple National Wins not to mention the points. We have been working within the Industry with top professionals for years. We are in Every facet of the Industry-my Dad a Race horse trainer, my brother ran Security for Racetracks over the years for horses worth millions, sisters that Won Congress so many times they were in the AQHA journal over 125 times combined. I have trained for years and stood my World Class Federated Dressage Stallion, NCHA mares, and worked many more. I am so sick of the terrorist statements, I am not a terrorist, I lived near the DeKalb plant and we found hooves on the side of the road, blood trails we had to explain to the children, and put up with the horrific issues from the plant. My grandfather had his ribs broken saving horses that were stolen from our neighbors ranch, the men at the plant broke his glasses, and he had several small injuries but HE came out with the horses. I called in 2005 to have HSUS help stop the abuse there. I am so sick of this garbage. We are regular people who witnessed the truth and you are a newspaper calling people and organizations horrible names and making false pretenses. And that fire was suspicious to everyone as it was on something the only thing they needed replaced???? Whatever! The fact is that regular people are the ones speaking out against this and you don't like it. Horse slaughter is vicious, horrible, and uncalled for. We heard the screams and smelled the smells and witnessed the abuse. I am so sick of the distortion to make it seem so nice. The horses don't deserve this. I don't need pictures, we saw it, I don't need to be told, we witnessed it! I am so sick of the propaganda for pro slaughter. When they find it in our beef products here, the beef industry will suffer greatly for it in sales, then you will feel the impact of 80 percent against it in your wallet, that's not terrorism, that's is honest fact.

Anonymous (not verified)
on Nov 5, 2013

If it was not clear it is "Anonymous " I support as stating the truth, not this stupid article.

Nancy (not verified)
on Nov 6, 2013

Anonymous, bless your heart for being a witness and describing, so lucidly, what others wish to shove under the rug of their biases.

Debra Schroer (not verified)
on Nov 6, 2013

Absolutely brilliant comment and one that all should read and understand.

Nikki (not verified)
on Nov 7, 2013

Thank you for posting the real facts here and what you actually saw and heard!!! God Bless you for being part of both industries and yet are still able to see the horrible truth about horse slaughter :)

on Nov 8, 2013

Fantastic comment! Thank you so much!

Anonymous (not verified)
on Nov 10, 2013

Thank God for your compassion...I am sickened by the slaughter of horses..domestic and wild....Our governments which include the BLM in the United States and the ERSD in Canada have been well informed by the number 1 pro-slaughter hypocrite Ken Salazar...I wish him a great awakening which he passes by the Rainbow Bridge..the horses will be able to stomp him into the nearest pile of rotting horseslaughterhellhouse excretion.

Anonymous (not verified)
on Nov 5, 2013

Again, they state, all the horses that are starving, your lame if you think all the horses that go to slaughter are starving, lame, that is what you are lame. Also if we really loved the horses, well guess what, many "really" love the horses and their idea of helping them is not barbarically slaughtering them

Anonymous (not verified)
on Nov 5, 2013

If the "beef it's what for dinner" people had a clue they would realize that the return of horse slaughter to the US will put a hurting on the beef industry like you wouldn't believe. I remember when horse slaughter was legal in the 1980's and '90's. Horse theft was on the rise. It was horrible in the southeast when horses were being stolen and sold into slaughter at a plant in South Carolina. They had the good sense to shut it down before it completely damaged waterways and ran off the tourists. The beef industry is responsible for the vegan movement in this country. If they were wise, they would oppose horse slaughter with everything they've go.

Anonymous (not verified)
on Nov 5, 2013

I don't understand why you think that horses will suffer if they're not slaughtered? I remember when there were two horse slaughterhouses operating in the southeast and one in Texas, yet horses were still abandoned and starved. Know why? Because of the ignorance of people. The existence of horse slaughter plants will not decrease the number of ignorant, neglectful humans in this country. What the existence of horse slaughter plants WILL do is cause horse theft to increase, damage the beef industry, pollute the land, waste water and who will get rich? A small faction who serves an overseas industry. Who will pay $400,000.00 per year, per slaughter house for USDA inspections of horse meat for that overseas industry? American tax payers with their federal tax dollars. Do you have any idea how many federal grants and programs have been stripped from our public schools in the past few years? Where do your priorities lie??

Anonymous (not verified)
on Nov 5, 2013

Thanks for supporting horse slaughter. Because of your actions supporting horse slaughter, I stopped eating beef, and I'm all the happier, healthier and lighter for it. Beef : It's not for dinner anymore. Or, ever.

BL (not verified)
on Nov 6, 2013

I also stopped eating beef months ago, and after reading that they found horse meat mixed into pork products and chicken nuggets in Europe, I have stopped eating all meat. The hundreds of banned toxic chemicals present in horse meat make it absolutely dangerous to eat-only a truly uneducated person would risk it. I have been educating everyone I know about the risks of consuming drug-laden horse meat and about the food contamination scandal in Europe. My friends and family are also cutting way back on beef, and other meat products, we have even been having vegetarian potlucks at work.

Claus (not verified)
on Nov 7, 2013

The issue was not so much that they found horse meat in the lasagna, but that nobody knew where the meat was coming from.
Horse meat is a delicacy in some parts of Europe with a higher $$$ value than beef. This was exactly the point that made the whole story that suspicious: You don't use expensive meat (horse) to stretch cheaper ones (chicken, beef). If you own a horse meant for slaughter, it won't have much, if any medication, and you'll get a good price for it. If you have a horse with a full drug card, it'll cost you to get rid off.
Slaughter takes place in Eastern European countries with low wages and high corruption. They don't look too closely at the drug cards there. Cheap slaughter makes for (too) cheap food.

on Nov 8, 2013

WHAT drug card, Claus? Horses in the US don't have "drug cards" or anything else. And, in the EU, if you have banned substances on your drug card, passport, whatever you call it, you will NOT sell your horse for human consumption at any price. You will get your horse's passport signed OUT of the human food chain permanently.

Where the heck to you live?

ML (not verified)
on Nov 10, 2013

There is an old expression we don't hear very often any more: Dog in a manger. He can't or won't eat what is in the manger but he darn sure won't let anyone else eat it either. He just lays there snarling and snapping his teeth. Why don't you get out of the manger and go outside and take a walk. Get some sunshine and fresh air. Maybe mark a bush or a lamp post.

Valorie (not verified)
on Nov 6, 2013

Beef producers are threatened by the idea that we consider horse slaughter cruel because horses and cows are not that different. They lobby against us trying to end horse slaughter permanently because they know that we will try to end other slaughter next. Well, they are right. I stopped eating all meat the day I realized that it is industry standard to allow up to 5% of cattle to remain alive and awake while being bled out and dismembered or skinned during slaughter. That translates into thousands of cows being cut up alive. This is acceptable to the cattle industry and the USDA. So, there is no "humane slaughter" and there never will be. It's cruel and I won't be voting for that ever again. Besides, red meat is not good for you anyway.

on Nov 7, 2013

Please Valorie, show me some sort of proof of that 5% industry standard. And don't go quoting something from HSUS or Mercy for Animals or PETA. Give me a reputable source. You've obviously never been on the line in a packing house and seen the knock box up close. If you had, you'd know just how incredibly wrong you are.

on Nov 8, 2013

i believe I heard that figure from Temple Grandin. Could be wrong. But I did see it somewhere - and not from the HSUS. As for PETA, I never pay any attention to what those fruit loops say.

AgainstHorseSlaughter (not verified)
on Nov 5, 2013

The Santos fearing for their lives , really ? I think its the horses who are fearing for their lives at the hands of these butchers. Pro slaughter claims - AT FIRST- they want what is best for horses, but hit them with some cold hard facts and suddenly horses become MEAT and a commodity. What is best for horses is for the greedy over breeders to stop creating too many horses. Abuse cases will only increase if slaughter comes to the USA. And it will do nothing but open the gate wider for the greedy over breeders. It will not solve anything but add to the problem. Horse slaughter NEVER went away ... what has it solved ? This is all about money, thats all horse slaughter ever was and is about. I do not want my tax dollars funding this horrific animal abuse to send tainted meat to a foreign market. I do not want my tax dollars supporting a business that supports the likes of kill buyers, who steal and abuse horses and falsify documents. My tax dollars WILL NOT be used to fill the greedy pockets of those who are thirsty for horse blood.

Tami Hottes (not verified)
on Nov 5, 2013

The cattle industry wants to wipe out all of the Native Wild Horses so they line the pockets of dirty politicians and top BLM people. The horses are run down in terrifying helicopter stampedes, many are run to death or hit by the helicopter runners! The baby's soft hooves fall off and they are left to die, terrified and in excruciating pain. And I am a terrorist? You people are nothing more than sadistic, greedy criminals!

Anonymous (not verified)
on Nov 6, 2013

Great responses. No, slaughtering horses isnt good for anybody, especially the horses and those who live near the slaughter houses. The proslaughter folks are flying false flags.

MJWilson (not verified)
on Nov 6, 2013

Funny how the pro's say slaughter will take care of all the unwanted horses when it did'nt take care of them when they had four decades of slaughter here. And that all those horses have to travel to MX and CAN now when they always did and they did'nt care then nor would they try to stop exporting should they get their slaughterhouses up and running. A KB in PA will ship to CAN as it's closer. It's a money game and they don't want to give it up. Stop the over-breeding AQHA and the TB world! You should be taxed for your habit not rewarded with tax payers money. Stop the "foal milling"!

elizabeth dana (not verified)
on Nov 6, 2013

The BEEF Industry should RUN not Walk to the nearest exit and put miles between it and the rearing of the head of Ugly contaminated horsemeat SOLD as the New Beef! The LAST thing US Beef needs is to even associate itself with the idea of supporting any business that will destroy the integrity or PERCEPTION of Horse meat in the US food supply of American USDA Beef. If horse slaughter is allowed to export horse carcus, there is NO PROTECTION AGAINST ANOTHER EU SCANDEL! Billions of tons of BEEF were lost and thrown away, recalled, destroyed and businesses closed from the 26 country European Union disaster in 2012-2013 even with safety precautions! Why invite a Mexican backed bank, Chinese run financer and Black Market Drug Ran Cartel of a Special Interest Wyoming horse rancher and New Mexican horse cloners RUIN THE AMERICAN from irreparable damages for years to come! Banning Horse Slaughter on US soil AND stopping the export of horses to Canada and Mexico IS THE ONLY WAY to protect USDA AMERICAN BEEF INDUSTRY!

Anonymous (not verified)
on Nov 6, 2013

What kind of a person would want to make a career out of killing horses? Horses are among the most intelligent of all animals on earth. They are sensitive and sentient. There is no animal more graceful or elegant than a horse. Many who are close to horses believe they are sacred and closely connected to the Almighty. They have existed in North America for an estimated 38 million years - see "The Wild Horse Conspiracy" by Craig Downer available at Amazon. Recent discoveries in Nevada and Southern California prove that they never went extinct in North America and were here before the Spaniards arrived. Why would we provide public money for private profit to produce a product that will never be sold in the US? So, again, why would anyone want to kill horses? Only people who have no knowledge of horses or who want to profit from their torturous death would kill horses. Go to Youtube and watch the horror of horse slaughter. If you care about horses and do not want to see them brutalized by slaughter, please call (202) 224-3121 and ask for your Senators and Representatives. Ask them to co-sponsor the SAFE ACT -HR1094 and S541. If they already have, thank them and ask them to help to get it passed.

Debra Schroer (not verified)
on Nov 6, 2013

This is abuse, inhumane cruelty of the Nth Degree. If Beef people see this issue as being a non-issue, what does that say about your industry? Does this mean that you absolutely have no problem with cruelty. If that is the case, then you have no business being in this business. Cruel is cruel, and if you were worth your salt, you would speaking against this as well.

Anonymous (not verified)
on Nov 6, 2013

More contaminated beef on the horizon, to protect yourselves from the thugs at the FDA /USDA /cattle men's assoc., find a local farmer, although their new legislation is trying to put him out of business as well.

LynnIL (not verified)
on Nov 6, 2013

OMG!!! What great comments from the anti-slaughter folks. Every single reason why horse killers say horse slaughter is a good thing had FACTS to back up why their reasons were wrong. And I love the true story by the person who lived near the plant in DeKalb. I was at the plant in its last days with the green goo coming out over the top of the holding tank. And I knew several people who were called in on the last days to rescue foals that were born on the kill floor. Only reason they were called was to make people think that this was such a kind and caring industry that they should be allowed to stay. But they never called rescues in all those previous years to rescue other foals that they throw out on the floor to die. They never tried to stop the screams coming from those buildings. If its not in your neighborhood what would you care. The history of this business is what needs to be looked at. It will never change because time is money and the horses will not be allowed to die in peace before being cut opened to watch as their blood flows out of them as does their life. It is a cruel and inhumane business and not one single plant that wants to open has taken any steps to make it more humane including the felon in New Mexico whose cattle slaughter house was closed by the Feds for cruelty and inhumane treatment of cattle. How is he going to treat horses who fight harder to get away?
One last thing, I too do not understand why the beef industry is supporting another meat when their own industry is feeling the pain of the loss of the meat eating public, free grazing, pasture land loss and small farmers who are selling out to factory farms. You better get back to the business of helping your own industry and stay out of the horse one.

on Nov 8, 2013

LynnIL, define a factory farm.

Debbie (not verified)
on Nov 6, 2013

THIS is from one of your OWN, read it learn and listen really listen....

The beef industry has had an obsession with slaughtering horses the last few years, putting megabucks behind lobbying to butcher American horses.

But some aren't swayed. Take a look at this great response from a cattle rancher to his fellow cattlemen about their bloodlust for horse meat:

It's a long and sad controversy, for sure, and the suffering of horses is beyond comprehension.

But the export of horses to slaughter in Canada and Mexico isn't HSUS's fault, and it's not the fault of the 80-90% of Americans who want Congress to pass a law ending horse slaughter.

The blame lies squarely on cattle industry, Farm Bureau etc who lobby to block the popular legislation that would end shipping US horses abroad to slaughter.

Here's what I can't understand. Branding beef with horse slaughter seems counter-intuitive. As a member of the business community, I see the tanking frozen beef sales in Europe caused by EU's horse meat contamination conspiracy, and wonder why intelligent American business people want to go down that same road.

Contamination of the US food supply is the likely outcome if domestic plants were to open. Further, US risks being thought of as no better than China's food exports, as long as we keep selling horse meat with a hundred or more drugs banned from food animals. That risks legitimate food exporters, too.

Science wins this one for the American people. American horses get too many drugs, they are too toxic for the food supply. The only way they are going now, is by owners and dealers filing false drug paperwork, which can come back to haunt them.

There is no data to back up increased abuse and neglect; in fact the data we have shows abuse and horse thieving goes down when horse slaughter stops.

Reports and photos by onsite USDA inspectors, and investigative reporting showed extreme, unapologetic brutality in US regulated horse slaughter plants, which is why Congress pulled the funding in the first place. You can't stun a horse effectively, they regain consciousness, that goes to anatomy and behavioral science.

The American taxpayers have no stomach for paying for that any more.

The solution is simple - breed less horses, breed good quality horses to satisfy the market, and encourage responsible horsemanship which includes calling the vet at the end of a horse's life. In fact, owners of 99% of US horses manage to do the right thing, - they call a vet - and they don't ask for government handouts to do so.

Anonymous (not verified)
on Dec 20, 2013

Please don't blame the whole beef industry for horse slaughter. I try to take the very best care I can of my horses and my cattle. I agree that breeding fewer horses is the way to go. I bet most ranchers take the best care of their horses too.

Jim Demoruelle (not verified)
on Nov 6, 2013

The horse slaughter debate is very misdirected as it is not a cruelty issue but a property rights issue. We are guaranteed property rights under the Constitution. When the government gets between the property owner and his property the Supreme Court has imposed the 5th Amendment demand to pay the property owner. Send the bill to the H$U$ and watch them saddle up. Read Cuyahoga Falls V Buckeye Community Hope Foundation US Supreme Court and Robin v. Hardaway. These court decisions tell us that the H$U$ does not have a financial ownership in the property then they have no right to get into the way, this same applies to the Court and the Government of the United States of America. So if you continue to let the Court and the H$U$ jerk you around then it is your fault.

A free man does not have to ask permission…….jimdemoruelle

BL (not verified)
on Nov 6, 2013

Actually, basic rights are granted by the constitution and related laws, but they are also limited. Just because you own a car, that doesn't mean you can just drop it off in the middle of a highway and walk off without consequences-you have accepted responsibility for the car and should you decide you have the "right" to leave it as a hazard in the middle of the highway, it will be towed, and you will at the very least be fined as a consequence. Trying to claim that just because something is your property you can do anything and everything you please with it is not actually true and it certainly is NOT guaranteed by any law or the constitution. Your comment just shows your ignorance of how our country was founded and how it works today.

Jones (not verified)
on Nov 6, 2013

I am so sick of hearing about "property rights". What about responsibilities? As a fiscal conservative I do not want one dime of my tax dollars spent to support an industry that promotes adulterated meat, destroys communities, encourages horse theft, and encourages the overbreeders to continue in their reckless ways at the general public's expense. I'm old, and I have seen such a shift in this country where everyone wants their presumed "rights", but responsibility? That's gone by the wayside. And as an old person who's owned horses my entire life, I know firsthand about the horse slaughter subject.

Anonymous (not verified)
on Nov 6, 2013

Oh I say, Please drop the Terrorist Label. Animal welfare advocates strive to save lives and not take them, thank you very much.

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